this is the story of how i ended up here on this site.... .
i was stuck in a situation where reaching out took forever, an eternity.
it was ridiculous - no matter what i did, there was always more to do.
Welcome.
It's a good thing that you ended up here. You will expand your knowledge and get closer to the truth.
The only problem is that you are here because you didn't get things your way. You are here because someone didn't tickle your ears. Maybe the elders made the right calls. Maybe you are not ready, which is good, you never want to be ready.
first post here: longtime lurker but hesitant to take the leap.
my story is pretty much like everyone elses with little variance, but i thought id add a few details that especially tormented me when i was in.
im sure these are familiar, im afraid this is a bit of a rant.. --paradise: the constant chatter about a perfect world when most in the hall were not even slightly interested in taking care of the earth now.
I hear you. As a despicable worldly person (mundano in Spanish) I try to go to my local grocery store with my own bag. More often than not I forget it in the car. So in that case I tell the cashier that I will carry the items in my hands and pockets (usually few). But when I go to my neighbor's trashcan (my own sister in law and devoted JW since childhood), I find piles of empty bags, even in knew condition, from the same grocery store where I refuse to take any. But, yeah I hear it all the time, how we non-JW's are ruining the earth.
tied-in?? English is not my first language. What the heck is the implication of the tied-in? An entire speech by the helper or part of it
the watchtowers achilles heel is available in spanish.. if reasoning with a jw on the governing bodys interpretations such as of the kingdom of god, parousia, the cross, blood, and so on is unlikely to break the governing bodys mental stranglehold, what then is its achilles heel?.
my study: the watchtowers achilles heel answers that question.
http://www.jwstudies.com/the_watchtower_s_achilles__heel.pdf.
Thanks Doug, I enjoyed your studies. Some actually make my brain work overtime, but it's well worth the effort
hi everyone,.
i'm researching 587 vs 607 for the date of the destruction of jerusalem... i'm not doing the research to prove or disprove anything about 1914, rather i'm looking at these dates in comparison to 1948 & 1967.. what is your view on relying on the cyrus cylinder, to accept 607 as the correct date of destruction... i know that there are many other factors.. but i'm trying to keep this portion of my research as simple as possible, so i'm primarily interested in the appropriateness of using the cylinders date of 537 + 70 = 607. one other question.. is it likely that both dates 587 & 607 have their own significance?.
Sorry,
You are quite the serious man. I certainly don't intend an insult when I use the word apostate. If anything, I use it mockingly of the WT. Evidently (there, more mockery), the written word does not convey the subtleties that sound and images convey.
Even though humor doesn't seem to be your forte, I stilll appreciate your great work, as well as I appreciate COJ, J Penton, R. Franz, D. Mason and many others. Thank you. Sorry if I sounded flippant.
hi everyone,.
i'm researching 587 vs 607 for the date of the destruction of jerusalem... i'm not doing the research to prove or disprove anything about 1914, rather i'm looking at these dates in comparison to 1948 & 1967.. what is your view on relying on the cyrus cylinder, to accept 607 as the correct date of destruction... i know that there are many other factors.. but i'm trying to keep this portion of my research as simple as possible, so i'm primarily interested in the appropriateness of using the cylinders date of 537 + 70 = 607. one other question.. is it likely that both dates 587 & 607 have their own significance?.
Hey Jetro,
I have kept correspondence with some apostates, even well known ones. I have done few translations to Spanish for them. The problem is that they live thousands of miles from California. I want to meet an apostate before I quit this JW business (when my children are out, few others too, why not). I want to find out if apostates have horns and tails. Hey, if they sit at the table of demons, horns and tails can be expected.
If you live somewhere near L.A., food is on me. You choose the place and I bring the credit card.
hi everyone,.
i'm researching 587 vs 607 for the date of the destruction of jerusalem... i'm not doing the research to prove or disprove anything about 1914, rather i'm looking at these dates in comparison to 1948 & 1967.. what is your view on relying on the cyrus cylinder, to accept 607 as the correct date of destruction... i know that there are many other factors.. but i'm trying to keep this portion of my research as simple as possible, so i'm primarily interested in the appropriateness of using the cylinders date of 537 + 70 = 607. one other question.. is it likely that both dates 587 & 607 have their own significance?.
English please, I get in a bad mood, very tense indeed, almost periphrastic and lexical at times when people speak with such customariness.
I am sure I can impress few people with this, even though I have no idea what the hell I am talking about.
for those who have heard this comment, check out aron ra's great site.. http://www.aronra.com/.
Theory of relativity is just a theory, and, just as the theory of evolution, has been proven true time and time again. Religious fundamentalists, that is creationists, have convictons about creation that are disproven time and time again. Which do I keep? Far and away I keep the theory with proofs.
NOTE: Evolution has been proven to have happenned. How exactly? That's another story that is still being debated.
true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.
atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.
http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).
Rather ironic that atheists in general don't proselytize, but get more converts lately than religious people do. If I am not mistaken the Pew research shows that the biggest growth is in people who don't want to be associated with organized religion (I am sure plenty of atheists in this group)
so manipulaitve.
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http://www.printcentralandsigns.com/jwtalks/covisits/sinutko%20charles%20-%20is%20it%20proper%20to%20have%20doubts.mp3.
Ann
Two different talks, two different guys. Similar names though. I can't remember the other guy
